miz to Titleist standard length

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By JJITXGolfer

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  1. I have researched everywhere and am finding conflicting information. I am transitioning from miz mp5 irons to 718 ap2. Ordering a full bag of Titleist this week. Is Titleist standard length really a 1/4" longer than miz (ie. 7 iron length 36.75" miz via miz spec sheet vs 37" Titleist via Titleist spec sheet. The forums are saying the miz measurement is with grip off and the Titleist is grip on, so finished clubs are actually the same length due to grip cap. How does Titleist actually measure? I would really appreciate some help figuring this out. Thanks!

  2. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    In my latest fitting I was reminded of something from my first Titleist fitting. This sounds crazy, but the png length is 1/4 shorter as well, and I consistently topped the ball but with the std length Titleist, I struck it cleanly. Trying the png with a 1/4 shaft over did resolve the problem during the fitting. When getting fit for some AP3s at a Titleist Thursday, the fitter tried the AMT and the AMC. The AMT performed better and w/o telling me, he tried a 1/4 inch longer AMC shaft. I didn't get longer because I was hitting fat. My recommendation, try the fitting iron with different lengths and pick the one that feels best and not try to build a miz set with Titleist heads.
  3. Jared - You're right, the Titleist "standard" is slightly longer. I made the transition from MP54s to a full set of 716 CBsso have some experience. Previously I was a standard length and lie in the Mizunos. The CBs are definitely longer, but I offset that in my fitting session by ordering the Titleists with a slightly flat lie. I love them and don't regret my choice.
  4. Trevor D

    Trevor D
    Bragg Creek,

    I have a couple sets of both and, grips on, Titleist's are actually longer AND more upright.
  5. Joseph M

    Joseph M
    Saint John, New Brunswick

    The standard lie of the MP 5 7 iron is 61.5 degrees and the AP2 7 iron standard lie is 63 degrees. If the AP2 is indeed 1/4 inch longer then the MP 5 it will play 1/2 degree upright due to the increase in length for a total increase of two degrees in playing lie for the AP2 over the MP5. Similar to suggestions above I look at first at the length that best allows center hits and then look at the required lie adjustment- considering the spec differences between these clubs and assuming that the MP 5's lie was a fit you will need to flatten the lie on the AP2 to match.
  6. Joseph M

    Joseph M
    Saint John, New Brunswick

    Jared, this may be too late to be of assistance to you, however, as indicated from the confirmations below from Titleist and miz their measurements are both before installing the grip, thus, you only need to adjust for the 1.5 degree lie difference.

    The finished length of recent Titleist clubs would be the listed measurement plus the butt cap which varies by approximately 1/8-1/4". ie a 45" driver would be 45" plus the butt cap so anywhere between 45 1/8" to 45 1/4"

    Thank you for contacting miz USA. All of our length measurements are done without the grip installed to ensure the most consistent and accurate measurements

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