It's 2019, you leaving the pin in?

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By Hotsauce

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  1. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce
    Georgetown MA

    Like all avid golfers I've been following the application of the new rules this week. The change I find most intriguing is the flagstick. Obviously if it's a slick downhiller or a tap in, I'm keeping the pin in, but much like Justin Thomas - I just think it will feel awkward with the stick in for most putts.

    With off the green shots I've certainly been helped by the stick, but I've also been robbed by it too. I have yet to play a round this year, but after watching Bryson in Hawaii, and listening to the GC Pundits, I'm considering giving it a shot.

    How about you? Are you going to leave it in?

  2. I think I’ll leave it in until I’m either close or within a sinkable range to pull it ,unless it’s a tap in. I feel like I’m rushed if I don’t pull it when I’m in range
  3. Deno

    Deno
    Hawthorne, NJ

    Many variables will dictate my choice. Distance of the putt and green speed and slope for instance. Since the penalty rule for hitting an unattended pin came about in the early 60's, I still can't see why the USGA is going retro thinking this will speed up the game.
  4. Rob V

    Rob V
    Vancouver, WA

    I guess it will depend for me. For long putts, I will probably leave the pin in and try that. For short putts, I will probably take the pin out.
  5. Frank P

    Frank P
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    If I'm playing alone i'll leave it in. When i'm with a group i'll take it out.
  6. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    Unlike Bryson hitting a pin is not more likely to drop- at least for me. If the pin is leaning toward me - it almost certainly won’t help. For tricky downhill putts it may save me. I’m much closer to JT mentally.
  7. Dale V

    Dale V
    Escondido, CA

    When I walk 9 by myself in the evenings it’s much easier for me to just play with the flagstick in. I have actually been doing this already most of the time. I think it’s a good rule for those circumstances. Played a full 18 today with a buddy and we left it in on long putts that would have been attended but pulled it for shorter putts. Probably what we will do most of the time.
  8. Bill L

    Bill L
    Spring, TX

    My group talked about and decided to leave the flag in for a while. But we are older and too lazy to bend over and pick the flag up.
  9. Gabriel G

    Gabriel G
    Cedar Park, TX

    In the interest of speed I will leave the pin. Putt, make it and then get the ball and walk away quickly.
  10. TFisher

    TFisher
    Cardiff, Wales

    Only leaving in if a very long put where I would normally have tended and looking for a lag put, being a traditionalist playing over 30 years doesn't feel right on close puts
  11. I'm looking forward to playing with the pin in and see if there's any difference. I believe it will have an impact in three ways...

    1) speed of play - unless your group is split between pin-in and pin-out, then that seems like an annoying dance and time waster.

    2) health of greens - I play muni's and see a lot of players dragging the pin across the green and the javelin-throw like heavy drop of the pin causing scratches and indentations.

    3) improve scores - in two ways. First, it gives another frame of reference for depth perception, so putting speed will improve. Second, I've always left in it for chips, thinking "backboard" for any over-cooked shots, and thinking the same now on putts going long. There will be putts than clank off the pin and leave a short putt instead of naturally rolling further away.

    Of course, this behavior will take time to change, so the benefits will not be seen immediately. I played a round yesterday with a friend who is a pin out guy, and when I asked him about his feeling of the new rule, he said he had not heard about it nor did he like it. The way he was putting, I thought about suggesting laying the pin down perpendicularly to his putt line six inches behind the hole...that would have improved speed of play!
  12. Greg D

    Greg D
    Oklahoma City, OK

    There is some research out there that came to the conclusion that it is advantageous to leave in the flagstick on most putts so I'll be giving it a try. Here's a link. Interesting idea to ponder I think.

    lowestscorewins.com/.../putting-with-the-flagstick-in
  13. Played today and we left pin in just to see how it felt,long putts great idea as speeds up play but from short distance felt weird and we felt hole looked smaller
  14. Not sold on pin in as many now think it cupulsory or at the least a personal requirement slowing play down instead of what was the intention... pin in for me, pin out for me, pin held for me, I believe better before but could sort itself out.
  15. I’ll pull it if I’m in a group, leave it if I’m solo. Just faster.
  16. Joey L

    Joey L
    Foster City

    I leave it in anyway most of the time when I play alone, so I’ll just keep on keep’in on.
  17. Steve S

    Steve S
    Tuckerton, NJ

    Whatever the situation calls for. I like just having the option.
    Play Well,
    Steve S.
  18. Tom J

    Tom J
    Vernon Hills, IL

    I would see using this rule as a time-saver if everyone is lining up long putts: rather than wait for someone to tend, just go ahead and putt with the pin in the hole.
  19. Barry B

    Barry B
    Lake St Louis, MO

    When I'm out by myself I always leave the pin in. I'm really interested in seeing what players want to do when playing in a group and during league play...some want it in, others want it out...just seems like it will slow down play.
  20. Like most of you, I've been playing with it in when I play solo.

    I agree with Deno when he said there are a lot of variables; we will see what happens.
  21. Now is the time of year I will try these things
    A good experience like holing a few long putts will sway my opinion!
    Leaving the flag in seems to have benefits ie time saving but only if everyone does it
    I think play when ready ( out of turn ) is more beneficial as is the 3 mins lost ball rule






  22. Tyler H

    Tyler H
    Appleton, WI

    Like most, I'll probably leave it in on long putts that would require the flag to be attended. When playing solo, I already leave the flag in most of the time, so probably no change there.

    TH
  23. Joey L

    Joey L
    Foster City

    Tyler H said:

    Like most, I'll probably leave it in on long putts that would require the flag to be attended. When playing solo, I already leave the flag in most of the time, so probably no change there.

    TH

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