August 20, 2018 at 08:56 AM
By Darren M
First time poster long time lurker.
I’m currently playing off 23 but have been told many times my swing is from someone a lot lower. I’ve just had my first proper club fitting and was told it was definitely my old and cheap clubs that have been letting me down. During fitting we went through many makes and shafts and settled on the AP2 irons. Using Trackman, I couldn’t argue with what I could see on the screen. With the AP2’s compared to other makes my dispersion was tight and length consistent. I was happy, paid my cash and am now awaiting delivery.
My question now, having looked at the write ups and reviews is, have I jumped the gun? I can hardly believe I’m good enough to use these clubs but can’t argue with the results on test. Am I worrying about nothing and find these will give me a new lease of life or will I find them just too hot to handle and all my bad shots will be magnified and show me up for a true 20 pluser?
Thanks for any input.
Doug EUrbana, MD
August 21, 2018 at 02:12 PM
My first reaction is that the AP2s are not something targeted at higher handicap players. Though somewhat forgiving, relative to the MB for instance, they are intended to be hit somewhere "in the neighborhood" of the sweetspot. If you miss by 3/4 of an inch you will pay dearly in distance. With an AP1, certainly you will not typically see as much loss of distance.
I am not a fitter, so am not sure why one would even put AP2s in your hand as a 23 index, but obviously, he thought your swing was good enough to try them. When I first started playing AP2s back with the 712 version, I was a 12 handicap, and I too thought they might be too much club for me. (I was coming from Titleist 755s then.) I struggled with the AP2 5 iron, but otherwise, I got better. I eventually put an AP1 5i in the bag and hit it so much better than my AP2 5i that I decided to try adding an AP1 6i. Huge difference in forgiveness between the AP1 and AP2 back then. I am now presently a 7 (6.5 index) and use newer AP2s with AP3-718 long irons and can really appreciate the added forgiveness with the AP3s.
If you were fitted indoors on a mat, as opposed to outside from different lies on turf, I would be cautious about the fitting numbers. Something doesn't sound right. AP2s are weaker lofts than both AP3s and AP1s (by 3* in the AP3 7i, the typical fitting iron) so you wouldn't think your distance numbers should be better with AP2 than AP1/3. Your spin, launch angle, etc. may be better, but frankly, I would still lean towards forgiveness at this stage of your game. FWIW, I presently get about 10 yards less carry distance with my AP2 7i than I do with my AP3 7i on well hit center contact shots. Granted, different shafts, but one is 31* of loft, the other 34*.
Using less forgiving blade-style irons is fine if you are so consistent that hitting the sweetspot is matter-of-fact for you. But, at a 23 handicap, that typically isn't the case, unless you are absolutely a terrible chipper and putter of the ball. If I were you, before I marked up those new irons out on the course, I would check with the fitter/retailer and voice my concerns. Make sure you have the option to return them at full credit in case things don't materialize like the launch monitor suggested they would.
For me, AP2s are fantastic irons. Been playing them for years now, first the 712s and now the 716s. Like them more than my AP3s, because I feel I have the best control with them. Yes, I get more distance with an AP3, but for me the game is about control. Hopefully for you it is too and you'll hit them as well on the course as you did off the mats. They are typically much more accurate in the right player's hands than a GI club. Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
Johnny TeeMississauga, ON
Don OMadison, WI
Tom JVernon Hills, IL
Edward KWesley Chapel, FL
Frank PPort St. Lucie, FL
Dave NLady Lake, FL
September 10, 2018 at 12:16 PM
I went for an iron fitting this year (I won the RBC Open Titleist Contest) and the fitter gave me the AP1, AP2, and AP3 irons to hit. I am also a very high handicapper but my friend who is a very low handicapper said it's my club selection which has me high.
Anyhow, the fitter also said I am an AP2 guy. With the AP1 and AP3 I was missing the center of the face and losing distance compared to the AP2. He thinks the smaller head profile suits my eye better which enables me to hit the ball better.
Haven't registered for Team Titleist yet?